Belief Vs Science

Believing a God of fairness and reason exists gives humans a reason to be fair and equitable in their affairs.

Scientifically we know there is no such God, but do we have to stop believing just because we know there isn’t a being overseeing our decisions?

I thank our ancestors for their belief which kept them modest in their desires to save resources for their children (us).

How will our descendants judge our current society? Are we using finite resources sparingly for their benefit?

God teaches us to want less and be more. This puts the good of humanity before the selfish whims of the individual.

Science and state currently teach us we can have what we want and never mind the consequences. The more we consume the better for the economy and therefore all of us, but in a capitalist society this just leads to the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer. Parents invest in their children and stockpile wealth to give them an advantage over their peers, but then that leads to a generation of idleness, or children doubting their own abilities as they have never earned for themselves. The poor are unhappy, but so are the rich.

If ever there was a time for the church to step in and sort out what really matters, it is now. Our society is seriously selfish and warped and our education system has lost the plot. Unfortunately our church leaders don’t truly understand God. They are too busy insisting he is real to accept it is the concept of a fair minded forgiving judge that is most important.

It is only with absolute empathy for all humans as exactly equal that any of us can pass judgement on the affairs of others. How do we know if our empathy is absolute or that we don’t hold some deep seated discrimination at the core of our being that stop our judgement from being perfect?

Do we believe truly that we are equal to all other humans?
Or were we brought up to believe we are superior to other humans outside our family? In conflict we assume we are right and others are wrong.
Or were we brought up to put the needs of others before our own to such an extent that we believe our needs to be inferior to those of others? In conflict we automatically look to ourselves to see what we have done wrong.

Do we believe men and women are equal? Not physically, but mentally and emotionally. If we don’t treat boys and girls as equal  we can hardly expect them to grow up believing themselves to be equal. Belief and perception are equally as important as reality when it comes to the human mind.

I only know that believing and faith allow our minds to be open to new experience and new learning from other humans. Closing our minds to an ideal of absolute Godlike empathy leads to us closing our minds to people who behave differently to our experience.

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2 thoughts on “Belief Vs Science

  1. but do we have to stop believing just because we know there isn’t a being overseeing our decisions?

    If you believe that behaving rationally is a good thing, then the answer is yes. Otherwise, you’ll end up consulting the magic pink unicorn for that tough ethical choice rather than the information at hand.

    Unicorns and gods should not inform our thinking.

    I thank our ancestors for their belief which kept them modest in their desires to save resources for their children (us).

    This statement is demonstrably false. Our species has spread like wildfire across the face of the earth, using every resource past its sustainable limit. Our history is one of exploitation and expansion.

    God teaches us to want less and be more.

    You’re talking about the same dude who advocates genocide and is okay with slavery right? If so, I’d be skeptical of anything he claims as ‘truth’.

    If ever there was a time for the church to step in and sort out what really matters,

    Because the church was so awesome at running things when they had the chance – or did you miss that period of church dominated history called the Dark Ages.

    *skipping existential prolix*

    I only know that believing and faith allow our minds to be open to new experience and new learning from other humans.

    I’m pretty sure that we need less ‘believing’ and ‘faith’ and more attention to fact and reality. Myth and magic are not the solutions to problems in the real world.

    Closing our minds to an ideal of absolute Godlike empathy […]

    Most of the gods in organized religion are monomaniacal. Empathy, on the other hand, is a human trait that can be learned and is a necessity for the production of ethical human beings.

    • Hi Arbourist, thank you for taking the time to make a comment. I don’t know if you’ve read the other posts I’ve made or you might understand my meaning better. I think you have the same literal view of God as many practising christians. Forget everything you currently believe about God and the bible and try to put your feelings to one side and suspend your disbelief for a moment. I use the word God loosely, but perhaps it is distracting you. When I was a teenager and worried about the state of the world I thought “If only there was one perfectly fair person who could make sure everyone in the world was treated equally, ah, that’s why they invented God”
      I’m the 7th of 9 children with a Mum who called herself a “household manager”. I did an economics degree so I could get a good job and not be poor anymore. To me, God is the grand economist in the sky (of my mind). Absolutely fair and just (a bit like my Mum). If we fill our hearts with empathy for our fellow man/woman, nature and animals and keep a grip on reality and economics it leads us to making good choices for us that do not harm others.
      Most societies have some sort of God or spirit that they look up to and try to emulate. Most societies go through stages when God is a dark, vengeful being who punishes those the authorities say should be punished. Then at other times God is thought of as kind, forgiving and ever peaceful and this leads to societies helping the weak and in need.
      The way society perceives God is the problem, not the concept of a good, non corruptible authority figure whom those in authority are answerable to. God is a metaphor to allow us to contemplate being good for the sake of others, even if that means we have to wait for the things we want, or live more modestly than our neighbours and friends.
      At present our society is so clever, we know God doesn’t exist and we have access to a whole world of knowledge at our fingertips. We believe our judgement is perfect as we can get validation for whatever we believe from the internet. But does that mean we are any better off than our ancestors in the dark ages? The God of capitalism is not a God of love or equity, yet our society is happy to let him reign free. We are being advertised to at a ridiculous level, being told we need more, deserve more etc. We are being encouraged to be selfish rather than selfless. Our government sets a terrible example promising everything to everyone with no thought of how it will pay at the same time as allowing the most disadvantaged in society to be villified and derided.

      If I didn’t have faith in the goodness at the heart of humanity I would live a sad, doubt filled existence and might use alcohol, drugs, gambling, overeating, and buying new stuff to fill the hole in my heart (I’m not perfect, but we cannot deny that these negative ways of living in the moment affect a large proportion of society and they are all things that we could choose not to do if we had an alternative e.g. singing, dancing, meditating, sex, art, storytelling/listening etc) .
      Empathy is a taught trait, and the use of a God or spirit to teach empathy has been used by humans since the dawn of time. I have a respect for the way I was taught to be a good empathic, logical, reasonable human. Stories are a way to connect both sides of the brain- creative and logical to teach us how to behave as good humans, accepting that we can all do the wrong thing at times, but we should always aim to make the right choice for the common good.

      Have you ever spent any time considering what you do believe and whether you follow the rules of behaviour you would have been taught as a child and would probably teach your own children? If you make all decisions with empathy for all and treat all humans as equal then you are living in the way Jesus taught, whether you agree he existed or not. Our society and judiciary system depends heavily on what we believe- look at poor Mark Duggan, his killer let off due to belief over evidence. Without faith in truth over perception of truth we are living in dangerous times.

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